Wednesday, July 1, 2009

ABC, Obama and The One - Sided View

The Debate That Never Was

Last Wednesday night ABC held a town hall meeting promoting President Obama’s health care agenda. ABC and other liberals want you to believe that this was a debate on how to fix costs within the health care industry. But, for there to be a debate there must be more than one view presented. And that didn’t happen. Commercials were not even allowed to be purchased to show opposing or different ideas on the health care debate. Debate is a very good thing when you are trying to figure out how to fix a system that is broken. The fact that ABC wants to pretend that there was debate and discussion regarding the health care industry is a crock of s**t. One view equals no debate for it is clearly not possible. There was a question and answer session where Obama answered citizens’ questions about his nationalized health care plan.
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Obama to Jane: Your Ma Ma is so Old . . .

There was one question and answer that peaked my interest. For Obama’s answer was so cold and appalling that I thought that he was Frankenstein talking about a robot or a mannequin, and not an actual person. Here is the dialogue between Jane Sturm and President Obama:
Member of the audience. Jane Sturm: "My mother is now over 105. But at 100, the doctors said to her, 'I can't do anything more unless you have a pacemaker.' I said, 'Go for it.' She said, 'Go for it.' But the specialist said, 'No, she's too old.' But when the other specialist saw her and saw her joy of life, he said, 'I'm going for it.' That was over five years ago. My question to you is: Outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who is elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit, a certain joy of living, a quality of life, or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?"

Obama: "I don't think that we can make judgments based on people's 'spirit.' Uh, that would be, uh, a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that, uh, say that, uh, we are going to provide good quality care for all people. End-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we're going to have to make. But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they're not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they're being made by private insurers. At least we can let doctors know -- and your mom know -- that you know what, maybe this isn't going to help. Maybe you're better off, uhh, not having the surgery, but, uhh, taking the painkiller."
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Obama to Obsolete Human Robots-Take a Pill and Drop Dead

Jane explained to Obama that her mother has lived an additional five years after the pacemaker was put in her mother’s heart. What was stunning to me was that in Obama’s response he was clearly stating that the procedure which extended her mother’s life should have never happened. Even after knowing the outcome Obama states that retroactively this procedure should not have been performed, because under his plan, we’re going to make those decisions means that the Govt. will be deciding in your old age whether a procedure is worth it or not, whether it is cost effective to save your life or not. Should we really be letting the government decide on our outcomes based on the dollar? A life is more precious and valuable than the almighty dollar. From Obama making this statement I surmise that he believes that money is worth more than a human life and displays that he believes life is dispensable. Well, there are other humans to take your place so why spend so much money to keep you alive? Maybe the family members want their loved one to stay around as long as they can. With a private insurance there are options. A person and their loved ones, and the doctors can make the decision whether the procedure should be done and whether the costs are worth it or not depending on the procedure, specifically, whether it should be paid for out of pocket if the insurance company refuses to cover it. Nationalized heath care such as that proposed by Obama, and practiced in Canada and England, eliminates the latter option.

Like Obama said, there must be rules that will not account for subjectivity or one’s spirit. It’s just the hard, cold reality that the rule must be followed even though a person could have been saved if it wasn’t for a certain rule. Does Obama believe that human lives are like robots one and the same? He states that end of life decisions should not be subjective, but yet the elderly should be subjected to rules like on a production line, like a product. Humans are not mere products or inanimate objects, humans are living beings who are subjective and need to be treated in that manner when making health related decisions. Human beings are not to merely be treated as robots following rules. He implied even though her mother has lived longer because of the surgery, she would have been better off just taking pain medication. In fact, Obama basically said that she, as an elderly woman, should not have been allowed to have the surgery because it was not cost effective.

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2 comments:

dirtyrottenscoundrels said...

Talking about great minds thinking alike - my wife did an article on the same thing :)

You two have this thing pegged so well - the whole idea of health care for the elderly being so "yer on yer own now ma" really worries me. My Mom is 82 and has done well by me and our country. She doesn't deserve to have this happen to her, nor anyone else's mother or grandmother.

Ever stop to think about the kids born with Downs Syndrome, Spina Biffida or any other debilitating disease? You know... say it softly - the kind that costs .... money?

We know how the left feels about aborting fetuses for the "good of the child or the parents".

What if, say, they come up with a term like "unviable biomass" that they have to then terminate for the "good of the people"? You know, the "people" can't spend the money on a child right out of the womb - too much of a drag on the system like the elderly.

Remember when that Mensa person called for the same thing and the left was the loudest protestor? Funny how things change.

Teresa said...

DRS,
You're right. Your mother doesn't deserve to be treated like she is dispensible. She deserved much better. She deserves to be honored and revered.

If the left comes up with the term "unviable mass" that would be a great detriment to out society. It would be like the left and Obama's becoming little Hitlers. I hope the left never thinks of those words or anything similar.

I actually don't remember the mensa person calling for the same thing. I will have to check that out. I can't wait to read your wife's article. I will check it out shortly.