This is lunatic idea being propagated by our government is fascism of the worst kind. This National I.D. Card is intrusive into the lives of Americans. This is not a good solution, if a solution at all. This is Big Brother violating the privacy of Americans while rewarding illegal immigrants who have entered this country via illegal means-- enabling these illegal immigrants to have all the benefits of American citizens when these illegal immigrants are not playing by the rules. Americans are playing by the rules and now our government is trying to screw the American people. This really ticks me off. The answer to the illegal immigration problem is to close our borders, to put a fence up, and to post an additional number of armed guards at both borders. The wrong answer to this immigration issue is for the government to use this intrusive method where government would be creeping their way into our private lives. This is about our freedom. We must stop our government from gaining more control over our lives. Sen. Lindsey Graham, the RINO from South Carolina, is co-sponsoring this bill. We need to boot Sen. Lindsey Graham (RINO) out of office since he is co-sponsoring this crappy piece of legislation and crossing the aisle. No more crossing the aisle, dammit!! No more compromising our privacy!!! Let’s all fight back against this outlandish, extremely intrusive bill.
Senate Plan Calls for National ID Card to Curb Illegal Immigration
By: Dave Eberhart
A national ID card using biometric data such as fingerprints is at the center of an immigration reform bill being hammered out in the U.S. Senate – a measure that once again probably will pit advocates of homeland security and tough immigration enforcement against civil libertarians, employers and immigrant rights groups.
The new effort by Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., will revive the “Real ID” debate that has festered for years with little effect on illegal immigration. Under their plan, a universally required card would be encoded with all sorts of information regarding the holder, as well as contain a unique biometric signature created from either fingerprints or the vein patterns on the tops of the hands.
Bottom line: Employers will not be able to hire applicants who do not present a valid ID.
Schumer and Graham are slated to meet soon with President Barack Obama to brief him on their work. An administration official said the White House has no position on the biometric card, according to a report in The Wall Street Journal.
Graham’s approach to the controversial IDs is simple: Americans already carry Social Security cards – this is the same thing, except tamperproof. So what’s the big deal?
“We’ve all got Social Security cards,” he said. “They’re just easily tampered with. Make them tamper-proof. That’s all I’m saying.”
“It’s the nub of solving the immigration dilemma politically speaking,” Schumer told the Journal. The card, he argued, would nip in the bud any surge of illegal immigrants. “If you say they can’t get a job when they come here, you’ll stop it.”
All sounds well and good, but predictably there are critics who see the card as the ultimate invasion of privacy that puts Big Brother at the shoulder of every honest American worker.
Conservatives are divided depending on their views on immigration vs. the potentially intrusive role of government. Fox New host Bill O’Reilly said Tuesday night that he favors a National ID Card, citing among other things the additional taxes that would be collected through reduced fraud. He called it a “moneymaker for the U.S.” O’Reilly, as well as former CNN host Lou Dobbs, an advocate of strong immigration enforcement, wants the measure fast-tracked this year.
But others don’t like the idea of a government with control of biometric data of every U.S. citizen.
“It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people’s privacy,” said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union, according to Homeland Security Newswire. “We’re not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We’re also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification.” CONTINUED
19 comments:
Hmph. Seems a step toward gov't control of the citizen. Our forefathers did not give their lives for this.
Scary stuff. It's all a slippery slope.
Lindsey Graham is a worthless POS.
The reason it's being tried on us is we're easy. We obey the law ... WE'RE EASY !
Borders and fences become objects to tunnel under, cut through, or merely cross over and we've wasted millions of taxpayer dollars by constructing a border perimeter fence, wall, whatever.
Now if we did the following, illegal immigration would be greatly reduced:
1. If any US employer hires an illegal knowlingly, the employer not only permanently loses his/her business license, but can never again open another business in the United States;
2. No more anchor babies. If it's born here, it gets sent back to the country of origin with a bill attached for the food it received here. Force the mother to accompany the child back to their home country.
3. No more Consular Matricula benefits such as tax free groceries at Wal-Mart. No, if you come into America illegally, you pay sales tax just like the rest of us.
4. If any illegals are caught, they are sent for a three month stay at a work camp and are worked 12 hours a day cleaning our highways, toilets, and every other demeaning job that a citizen should never do.
5. If a male illegal gets caught, he receives castration. If it is a female illegal, she gets sterilized.
Impose just those five points and trust me, we'd have no illegal immigration problem whatsoever.
Wow Steve, Harsh but to the point. That would do it, but I have a feeling it won't be tried.
Opie,
Your absolutely correct. They fled the likes of this.
Matt,
Yes. A slippery slope.
Hack,
I totally agree.
Odie,
I am all for protesting this tyranny.
Steve,
I like most of your points. But, number 5 seems too harsh IMO. But, this plan would dramatically reduce the number of illegal immigrants in this country.
Dust n'Lint,
I also doubt that those ideas are going to be applied. We've got some pussy politicians these days.
It violates the American tradition of its citizens being "sovereign individuals". Just one more brick in the wall.
hey Teres..because heaven forfend they should deport Musssssssssssslims or the ones hiding terrorists..sick!!
People of all political persuasions are resisting the idea of ID cards in the UK. We use ID even less than in the USA. I was always being asked to show my drivers' licence as ID in the USA, even for things like using a season ticket at the zoo or checking out library books. The use of the "social security number" was also ubiquitous. Thought-provoking post :o)
I don't have a problem with Steve's ideas except go ahead and finish the fence... Once complete you mount 50 calibers evey so many feet... I think if you shot a few hundred and left the corpses to rot, the rest of them might take notice...
The ID card has nothing to do with illegal immigration, it's just one more freedom being confiscated in the name of protection...
Hi Teresa! This gets me very worried too. It's a TOTAL invasion of privacy. Like every other illegal thing these fascists want to rham down our throats, they are pretending it's for "security". I find it horrible
and also the start of biblical prophecies, that you can't buy or sell or do anything without "the mark"...so that's coming soon. If this is not a liternal "Mark" it's the precursor...they have everything about us marked in the lst place, and w/the crappy census questions coming, we are all screwed.
On a lighter note, I hope you are enjoying your school break vacation week. I'm enjoying all my weeks now> Happy Thurs...((Huggs)))
The Government knows damn well that a National ID card won't STOP illegals from getting in, especially when the governments answer to illegal immigration is to grant amnesty every four to eight years.
The only purpose for the National ID Card is the same purpose of Home Land Security and that is to control the American people.
SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS PLEASE!
The idea that we need a national ID card is a Trojan horse. We don't need such a thing.
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